I know you two mostly prefer to avoid each other, but I want to do something and you’re the two that get most concerned about my safety when I do stupid, rash things and I want to do a stupid, rash thing.
[Attached is the series of descriptions the Glory gave of Mu’s “sun” from here]
I haven’t uploaded it in a folio yet because I don’t want … if we pass out tomestones to Dyu or Ravhi or anyone else on Mu, or if Qarina sees it, I’m not sure how … anyone would respond? I’m trying to take Aury’s point about not unnecessarily setting people to heart.
But I also don’t know what the fuck to think.
And. I’ve had some luck, I think, reaching out to strange and screaming things and getting connection back in return, and in the library I know … I know Wolf managed it, and I should probably talk to him to, but I want to try to see if I can … talk to that thing in the sky? And I also want to be as safe as possible about it. So. I wanted to ask you both about ideas to make communing with the Angry Sun as safe as I possibly can?
I had a couple thoughts.
Both in the caves, and with the Mother of Monsters, I had some luck drawing as much of the matching gnosis into myself and … becoming more like the thing I was trying to deal with? In the caves that meant tenebrous, and in the meat cathedral that meant burning. I don’t really think I could meaningfully draw three gnoses into myself at once and … I don’t know.
I thought of trying to weave some protection of the opposite triad? But I don’t know if that will work either.
And then I considered trying to become as liminal as possible and seeing if that might protect me, but unlike with burning and tenebrous, I don’t have … a great model of what that would look like.
I didn’t know if either of you had any ideas.
What, exactly, do you think you are going to meaningfully get out of trying to commune with the body of a dead celestial being? “The Sun is, unambiguously, something’s corpse.” I will also note that there is some strong thematical resonance with radiation, the thing that makes humans all fucked up with terrible growths on Mu, and the Angry Sun’s light taking a half-life bar from you ever time its damage ticks.
Maybe talk to Wolf first about what happened to him during his attempt that set him below 1 HP before getting your ass blasted for no real reason?
And if you REALLY need someone to slam there face into a corpse that might be a god that’s spilling death rays out of itself for eons, perhaps get Dyu to do it instead? Seeing as how the Kin seem immune to its effects.
I mean, it’s mostly that I have to try. It’s always been that I have to try. And it’s worked every other time I’ve tried something absurd and unlikely. It worked with the Omniclast and the Mother of Monsters and the Dream-Whales. Other people do science, I do … this.
And I was probably going to talk to Wolf but I wanted input about safety from you two first especially because you’ll be able to see, Jorule, and I know it’s sucked in the past to be able to see me do this shit and not do anything.
And Aury I … know we’ve talked about this before too and if you genuinely tell me it’s something you don’t want me to do I … I won’t.
I guess maybe I should have talked to you both individually but I just. Thought maybe brainstorming together might be helpful.
Anway the sun-sickness people get on Mu seems to be from long-term exposure. Wolf is fine and I think I’ll be fine too in that regard? I’m not sure what you mean by half-life bars other than it’s a lot, but I’ve stood under this “sun” before, if only for a moment.
I certainly couldn’t stop you from doing anything you truly set you heart toward, but I do agree that it doesn’t seem likely that anything is gained from this other than pain. And. I do not particularly understand why you always seem so eager to jump into things likely to hurt you without any plan in particular other than to experience said harm…?
I think to me that it’s. I don’t mind the thought of pain, and I perhaps don’t mind it to the point I’ve actively been careless in the past. But now I think …
It’s about being willing to reach out to someone or something even if it might hurt you? I’m better at this with weird metaphysical creatures than people a lot of the time; emotional pain is harder for me than physical pain, and I’m not sure what that means, but more broadly … I think with the things I’ve encountered here it’s been valuable to not have a plan or any real goal other than understanding and sometimes empathy? I think offering to listen where I can is one thing I can do.
It isn’t … I know it seems like I maybe don’t value my life or my safety, and in the past that’s maybe been true? But I’m trying to make sure I’m not throwing myself in harm’s way because I don’t care if I die. I’m trying to be very careful about not doing that, because that would violate several promises I’ve made, implicitly and explicitly.
Cannot stress the “The Sun is, unambiguously, something’s corpse.” part enough. Do you find corpses are often capable of communication?
also poison tends to not kill immediately but over time and exposure
Please at least wait until speaking with someone whom has already done this exact thing before deciding it is absolutely, positively, necessary at least…? And perhaps, if it is, consider deferring to someone else whom might do it more safely…?
Cannot stress the “The Sun is, unambiguously, something’s corpse.” part enough. Do you find corpses are often capable of communication?
Well, it’s capable of screaming so it’s saying something. I’ve heard it. And if I can figure out the shape of what it might want—to either live again or actually fully die—that might be helpful?
Or even. Just offer a moment of something other than … pain?
did you know that when energy travels at fast enough speed, or with enough power or density, it sounds like it’s screaming, even though energy is not alive?
’sure is awful when people i care about get hurt, but actually, it’s fucking rad when i get hurt for no reason’ goddanmed tenebrous ass motherfuckers
I have lots of room to talk, I avoid needless self harm when at all possible.
Anyway I’m not sure if that’s what’s happening, or if it IS the dead throes of a mystical creature, but given it’s a corpse A) even if it was a scream, it’s one that happened in the distant past and is only just now reaching you. and B) the fact that everything about mu is screaming “nuclear disaster”, AND the fact that even a normal ass ball of space fire type of son would sound like it’s screaming if you were close enough for the sound to not get filtered out, yeah, it seems like a MUCH more reasonable thing to assume than “the dead thing in the sky is, unquestionably, a corpse, and also, somehow still capable of thought and communication”.
I don’t know what a nuclear disaster is? Is this that thing you said Jae that made her go fucking bonkers?
I don’t think the “energy makes sound” thing holds up since the loving sun doesn’t scream and even if it’s very pleasant, it’s still a ball of fire. That said, point taken about the corpse. I suppose the whole thing is weird enough that the death aspect feels immaterial, but I also realize that’s a big fucking assumption I’m making.
It’s a matter of intensity and distance. The other sun is situated in such a way that exposure to it is not only non-lethal, but promotes growth and life. Where as this sun is positioned for death and discomfort.
anyway if you keep telling me i should be more involved with the story and the group, this is what you’re getting. The overprotective nagging uncle. Not the moronic ass teenager with a devil may care attitude that’s encouraging you to shove your head into an oven while you’re high.
Please never refer to yourself as my uncle again. It’s weird and I don’t like it. Though the nagging is fine? I did, explicitly, ask for input.
I’m also not sure the sun positioning theory checks out? I’ll run it by our Awastronomer though.
you wanna bird up a lot of space facts, that’s fine by me. make it easier for you to realize you’re being a dumbass
I mean I don’t think space facts are going to help much with the corpse of ??? in the sky, but I’m not the Angel of Truth who’s been to space!
Though if we’re just going to snipe at each other we should probably switch back to DMs so Aurelius doesn’t waste his time checking this thread.
you’re the one that started it!!
anyway my final thought i will leave you with is this: if the fact that it is A Dead Ass Corpse was not important, why would Glory have gone so far out of their way to underline this point.